{"id":11821,"date":"2012-09-10T09:44:00","date_gmt":"2012-09-10T08:44:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/amateurphotographer.co.uk\/uncategorized\/police-defend-child-photo-removal-request-11821"},"modified":"2014-09-02T14:08:31","modified_gmt":"2014-09-02T13:08:31","slug":"police-defend-child-photo-removal-request","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/other.kelsey.host\/amateurphotographer\/latest\/photo-news\/police-defend-child-photo-removal-request\/","title":{"rendered":"Police defend child photo removal request"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\n    <sup>Picture:<em> Amateur Photographer&#8217;s initial coverage of the row, published in July<\/em><\/sup>\n  <\/p>\n<p>Surrey Police were asked to explain their policy on photography after two photographers said they were <a href=\"http:\/\/amateurphotographer.co.uk\/photo-news\/538898\/photographers-slam-police-over-indecent-photos-update\">harassed by off-duty officers <\/a>amid fears they had captured indecent images of a child &#8211; concerns later shown to be unfounded.<\/p>\n<p>Former <em>Guardian <\/em>photographer Don Morley said an officer told him to remove an <a href=\"http:\/\/amateurphotographer.co.uk\/photo-news\/538898\/photographers-slam-police-over-indecent-photos-update\">image<\/a> he had taken of a boy through a shop window on Guildford High Street in June (see above).<\/p>\n<p>Morley, who refused to erase the photo, said the off-duty officers told him it was \u2018illegal to take pictures with people in them without first asking permission&#8217;.<\/p>\n<p>Uniformed police who arrived on the scene shortly afterwards took no action against Morley and his friend, Bernard Lockley, having reviewed their pictures and found them to be lawful. <\/p>\n<p>The force said uniformed officers had been alerted to the scene, separately, via a complaint made by the boy&#8217;s grandmother.<\/p>\n<p>At the time, police said it had <a href=\"http:\/\/amateurphotographer.co.uk\/photo-news\/538906\/police-chiefs-defend-officers-in-child-photo-row-update-5-30pm\">no written record <\/a>that off-duty staff had requested an image be erased from Morley&#8217;s Fujifilm X10 digital camera, as the officers were not carrying notebooks at the time. <\/p>\n<p>\n    <strong>Freedom of Information request<\/strong>\n  <\/p>\n<p>However, responding to a Freedom of Information (FOI) request lodged by <em>Amateur Photographer <\/em>(AP), Surrey Police confirmed that an officer had asked that an image be removed.<\/p>\n<p>Asked under what circumstances the force justifies an officer&#8217;s request to delete lawful images captured in public, Surrey Police responded: \u2018The request to delete images in this case was made out of good faith, because of the distress that had been caused.<\/p>\n<p>\u2018This request was declined; no further action was taken other than general words of advice.&#8217;<\/p>\n<p>The police assertion that distress had been caused when an officer asked Morley to delete his picture suggests the off-duty police were responding to the grandmother&#8217;s concerns.<\/p>\n<p>But the photographers insisted they were not aware that an independent complaint had been made when the officers \u2018demanded&#8217; the image be removed.<\/p>\n<p>Rather, the photographers believe the off-duty police left the scene to persuade the family of the boy to lodge an official complaint. <\/p>\n<p>In an interview with AP in July, Lockley accused the off-duty police of behaving like \u2018agent provocateurs&#8217; \u2013 triggering the woman&#8217;s call to the station.<\/p>\n<p>Police insist that uniformed officers arrived on the scene in direct response to a telephoned complaint from the child&#8217;s grandmother, and that the woman&#8217;s actions were <a href=\"http:\/\/amateurphotographer.co.uk\/photo-news\/538906\/police-chiefs-defend-officers-in-child-photo-row-update-5-30pm\">not influenced<\/a> by the off-duty staff.<\/p>\n<p>The off-duty officers had been there by chance when they noticed the photographers and did not provoke the woman&#8217;s complaint, according to a spokeswoman for the force, speaking in July. \u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Morley said 11 minutes elapsed from when he took the picture to the time police originally gave for the complaint having been received, 12.50pm.<\/p>\n<p>This gap, he claimed, suggests the off-duty officers had time to first convince the woman to make the complaint, an allegation the force stoutly refutes.<\/p>\n<p>\n    <strong>Police trawl phone records <\/strong>\n  <\/p>\n<p>In its FOI response, the force says subsequent analysis of its phone records shows it actually received the woman&#8217;s complaint at \u201812.47pm&#8217; on 27 June. 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