{"id":12541,"date":"2012-07-04T15:09:00","date_gmt":"2012-07-04T14:09:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/amateurphotographer.co.uk\/uncategorized\/police-chiefs-defend-officers-in-child-photo-row-update-5-30pm-12541"},"modified":"2014-11-03T15:52:41","modified_gmt":"2014-11-03T15:52:41","slug":"police-chiefs-defend-officers-in-child-photo-row-update-5-30pm","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/other.kelsey.host\/amateurphotographer\/latest\/photo-news\/police-chiefs-defend-officers-in-child-photo-row-update-5-30pm\/","title":{"rendered":"Police chiefs defend officers in child photo row (update 5.30pm)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Meanwhile, a lawyer who witnessed <a href=\"http:\/\/amateurphotographer.co.uk\/photo-news\/538898\/photographers-slam-police-over-indecent-photos-update\">the scene<\/a> in Surrey last week, by chance, has come forward to say how he first feared the photographers &#8211; both in their seventies &#8211; were being \u2018mugged&#8217;.<\/p>\n<p>Surrey Police chiefs deny that an off-duty officer overreacted when he asked acclaimed photographer Don Morley, 76, to remove<a href=\"http:\/\/amateurphotographer.co.uk\/photo-news\/538898\/photographers-slam-police-over-indecent-photos-update\"> images of a toddler<\/a> from his Fujifilm X10 digital camera.<\/p>\n<p>And the dispute about how uniformed officers were alerted rumbles on.<\/p>\n<p>Police have told <em>Amateur Photographer<\/em> (AP) that, separately, Guildford Police Station was alerted by a woman who had seen Morley and his 79-year-old friend Bernard Lockley taking photos that included her young grandson.<\/p>\n<p>However, Lockley claims that the two off-duty officers who stopped them acted as &#8216;agent provocateurs&#8217; \u2013 triggering the woman&#8217;s call to the station. <\/p>\n<p>The photographers, who <a href=\"http:\/\/amateurphotographer.co.uk\/photo-news\/538898\/photographers-slam-police-over-indecent-photos-update\">refused to delete their images<\/a>, have told how they were left reeling in shock after police told them they were suspected of taking indecent photos of the boy.<\/p>\n<p>Morley said police grilled them for half an hour in Guildford city centre and described the manner of the off-duty officers as &#8216;aggressive&#8217;. <\/p>\n<p>Morley and Lockley were found to be innocent of any wrongdoing. <\/p>\n<p>The pair, who were not arrested or physically restrained, were only freed from questioning when police realised there was nothing suspicious about the pictures, having viewed them on camera following a call to uniformed, on-duty, officers who arrived minutes later.<\/p>\n<p>The camera club members say they had been taking general snapshots of street scenes last Wednesday having visited a nearby shop to try out a new camera.<\/p>\n<p>AP understands that one of the off-duty officers asked the photographers to delete any shots they had taken of the toddler.<\/p>\n<p>But, as the officers were off duty and not carrying notebooks, there is no police record of this part of the incident.<\/p>\n<p>However, the force refutes the photographers&#8217; claims that officers \u2018demanded&#8217; they erase their shots and their suggestion that the woman&#8217;s call to the police station was instigated by the off-duty policemen. <\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile, Stephen Gerrard, a passing lawyer who happened to witness the incident, told AP: \u2018I stumbled across the scene&#8230; My initial reaction was that these elderly men were being mugged or intimidated and so, standing on the corner of the alleyway, I decided to earwig the conversation.&#8217;<\/p>\n<p>Gerrard said he heard the officers ask to see the photos of the child, and one demand they be deleted, though he was not under the impression that a member of the public had complained.<\/p>\n<p>\u2018I think the allegation was that people were taking pictures which happened to include an image of a boy who had been in a pushchair,&#8217; added Gerrard, who has worked as a solicitor for 30 years.<\/p>\n<p>\u2018I said that you need to be aware that he [the officer] has no power of deletion and that everyone has a right to take pictures in public.&#8217;<\/p>\n<p>Speaking to AP, Gerrard said: \u2018Would a paedophile stand outside a jewellers shop taking pictures?<\/p>\n<p>\u2018Two people less likely to be a threat to anyone I can&#8217;t imagine.<\/p>\n<p>\u2018My initial impression was that there wasn&#8217;t an issue until the police made it one. 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