{"id":136008,"date":"2020-04-07T18:55:06","date_gmt":"2020-04-07T17:55:06","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/amateurphotographer.co.uk\/?p=136008"},"modified":"2020-04-07T18:55:36","modified_gmt":"2020-04-07T17:55:36","slug":"the-future-of-flickr","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/other.kelsey.host\/amateurphotographer\/latest\/the-future-of-flickr\/","title":{"rendered":"The future of Flickr: second chances"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>April 20th \u2013 a date to fear? Adolf Hitler is born in 1889; my sister Jennifer embarks on an ultimately disastrous marriage in 1990. Or a date to cheer? Best known for his role as USS Enterprise helmsman Hikaru Sulu, actor George Takei is born in 1937; and Barbra Streisand records <em>We\u2019ve Only Just Begun<\/em> in 1971.<\/p>\n<p>April 20th: family-owned photo-sharing platform SmugMug purchases Flickr in 2018. Do I fear or cheer the announcement? I joined Flickr in 2009. I joined it again in February 2010, July 2010 and in 2015. I could never remember my Yahoo login details. My myriad accounts remained in limbo. My profile picture a floating head up in the cloud.<\/p>\n<p>Founded in 2004, Flickr played a core role in the cultural and social life of the internet. Friendships developed as people shared photographs and others responded to them. Flickr was sold a year later to Yahoo for around $35 million. Yahoo retired its own photo service, Yahoo Photos, and made Flickr the jewel in the crown. Innovation at Flickr stuttered under the Yahoo umbrella. With the rise of Facebook and Instagram and the smartphone era, Flickr was slow to adapt and millions defected. However, Facebook and Instagram have their flaws. Consumers have become better informed about the use of their data. Many now see it as an asset they don\u2019t want to give up for free. Is it time for Flickr to reignite?<\/p>\n<p>I put in a request to speak to CEO of SmugMug Dan MacAskill, but as you can appreciate, for someone who has just overseen one of the biggest data transfers since Cambridge Analytica logged on to Facebook, he is quite busy \u2013 he did release this statement though: \u2018Since day one our passion has been empowering photographers to tell the stories they want to tell, the way they want to tell them, and our investment in Flickr reaffirms this commitment. Uniting the SmugMug and Flickr brands will make the whole photography community stronger and better connected. The enduring quality of photography is so much more than clicks and likes \u2013 photography has the power to change the world. Together, we can preserve photography as the global language of storytelling.\u2019<\/p>\n\t\t<div id=&quot;attachment_136015&quot;  class=\"c-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 650px\">\n\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-136015\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Flickr-Kevin-Meredith-1.jpg\" alt=\"Flickr Kevin Meredith\" width=\"630\" height=\"420\" srcset=\"https:\/\/other.kelsey.host\/amateurphotographer\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/16\/2020\/03\/Flickr-Kevin-Meredith-1.jpg 630w, https:\/\/other.kelsey.host\/amateurphotographer\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/16\/2020\/03\/Flickr-Kevin-Meredith-1.jpg?resize=300,200 300w, https:\/\/other.kelsey.host\/amateurphotographer\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/16\/2020\/03\/Flickr-Kevin-Meredith-1.jpg?resize=600,400 600w, https:\/\/other.kelsey.host\/amateurphotographer\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/16\/2020\/03\/Flickr-Kevin-Meredith-1.jpg?resize=562,375 562w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 630px) 100vw, 630px\" \/>\t\t\t<p class=\"c-caption__text\">Image by Kevin Meredith, who still likes the search functionality of Flickr<\/p>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\n<p>The majority of Flickr users have free accounts that run advertising alongside photos. Flickr also offers an ad-free Pro service for $49.99 (\u00a338) a year for unlimited storage. Hearing the encouraging murmurs of a Flickr revolution and that Yahoo logins had been dumped, I manage to access my 2015 account. I upload over 600 of my best photos and sit back feeling smug. A week later I\u2019ve accumulated 26 followers. Romany WG has 15.4k followers and only 36 photos. Thomas Hawk a whopping 52.4k followers and 163,375 photos \u2013 I don\u2019t think I\u2019ve taken that many photos in my 21-year career, certainly not that many good ones. Kirsty Mitchell has 20.5k followers and 369 photos. The Volkswagen Ambulance Flickr group asks if it can include one of my images. I sit back feeling a mug.<\/p>\n<p>There seems to be no pattern for success on Flickr. I have no understanding of what success would be. What is the purpose of the platform? What are its benefits? How often should I upload? What should I upload? Who should I engage with? How should I use tags? What groups should I join? Should I care and just stick to Instagram and Facebook? How do I get noticed? Why do I want to get noticed?<\/p>\n\t\t<div id=&quot;attachment_136016&quot;  class=\"c-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 650px\">\n\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-136016\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Flickr-Kevin-Meredith-2.jpg\" alt=\"Flickr Kevin Meredith\" width=\"630\" height=\"420\" srcset=\"https:\/\/other.kelsey.host\/amateurphotographer\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/16\/2020\/03\/Flickr-Kevin-Meredith-2.jpg 630w, https:\/\/other.kelsey.host\/amateurphotographer\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/16\/2020\/03\/Flickr-Kevin-Meredith-2.jpg?resize=300,200 300w, https:\/\/other.kelsey.host\/amateurphotographer\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/16\/2020\/03\/Flickr-Kevin-Meredith-2.jpg?resize=600,400 600w, https:\/\/other.kelsey.host\/amateurphotographer\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/16\/2020\/03\/Flickr-Kevin-Meredith-2.jpg?resize=562,375 562w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 630px) 100vw, 630px\" \/>\t\t\t<p class=\"c-caption__text\">Credit: Kevin Meredith<\/p>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\n<h3>Glory years<\/h3>\n<p>Miss Aniela got noticed. Her Flickr account may no longer be active but the fabled testimonials remain: drshrinker (catching up) says: \u2018The word nonpareil zips to mind. As does the hackneyed genius. Neither of which could possibly be more fitting. Nor would they sufficiently do this proper miracle of an image maker justice.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>Zest of the loganberry says: \u2018Miss Aniela is obviously a huge inspiration to a massive chunk of the Flickr community, including myself. Not only does she come up with beautiful, unique images again and again, she also provides amazing workshops and advice to developing photographers all around the globe.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>Li Gao says: \u2018I just saw her Flicker (sic) and my jaw DROPPED. her work is so unique and powerful and SPEAKS! take a look for yourself and be inspired, like I did.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>The cascade of adulatory comments goes on and so has the career of Miss Aniela, twice-named Saatchi\u2019s \u2018One to Watch.\u2019 Maybe this is what Flickr should be, a springboard for success. A positive and inspiring community of curated photography by passionate photographers away from the Twitter trolls, Instagram in uencers and Facebook boasters.<\/p>\n\t\t<div id=&quot;attachment_136017&quot;  class=\"c-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 650px\">\n\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-136017\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Flickr-Maciej-Dacowicz-1.jpg\" alt=\"Flickr Maciej Dacowicz\" width=\"630\" height=\"420\" srcset=\"https:\/\/other.kelsey.host\/amateurphotographer\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/16\/2020\/03\/Flickr-Maciej-Dacowicz-1.jpg 630w, https:\/\/other.kelsey.host\/amateurphotographer\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/16\/2020\/03\/Flickr-Maciej-Dacowicz-1.jpg?resize=300,200 300w, https:\/\/other.kelsey.host\/amateurphotographer\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/16\/2020\/03\/Flickr-Maciej-Dacowicz-1.jpg?resize=600,400 600w, https:\/\/other.kelsey.host\/amateurphotographer\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/16\/2020\/03\/Flickr-Maciej-Dacowicz-1.jpg?resize=562,375 562w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 630px) 100vw, 630px\" \/>\t\t\t<p class=\"c-caption__text\">Picture by Maciej Dakowicz, an early advocate of the platform<\/p>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\n<p>I had questions and I wanted answers. As MacAskill wouldn\u2019t talk to me I talked instead to Kevin Meredith, aka Lomokev, a British photographer and author known for his use of the Lomo LC-A camera and his Lomographic style. Based in Brighton, he has produced three books on photography: <em>Hot Shots, 52 Photographic Projects<\/em> and <em>Toy Cameras, Creative Photos<\/em>. Kevin is a guru.<\/p>\n<p>\u2018I really do like to use Flickr as an archive as the search features are second to none. If looking for an old photo, I will always look for it on Flickr first rather than my own local hard drive,\u2019 good point Kev. \u2018Flickr is also a great way of seeing all the details in an image, especially when being on a desktop computer. I\u2019ve got a 4K monitor and images fill the screen on Flickr in compression. Instagram is like looking at a postage stamp,\u2019 another good point Kev. \u2018Flickr feels like it\u2019s for people interested in photography. The upside of that is there a not a lot of \u201cinfluencers\u201d on there, rather people taking photos of what\u2019s in front of them than turning the camera on themselves. This becomes apparent when searching \u2013 if you search for \u201cBrighton\u201d on Flickr, you get pictures of Brighton, a somewhat postcard representation of the place, but if I do the same thing on Instagram, the top posts tend to be of influencers posing somewhere in Brighton, even if it\u2019s their Airbnb or their food.\u2019 Kev for President!<\/p>\n\t\t<div id=&quot;attachment_136018&quot;  class=\"c-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 650px\">\n\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-136018\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Flickr-Maciej-Dacowicz-2.jpg\" alt=\"Flickr Maciej Dacowicz\" width=\"630\" height=\"420\" srcset=\"https:\/\/other.kelsey.host\/amateurphotographer\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/16\/2020\/03\/Flickr-Maciej-Dacowicz-2.jpg 630w, https:\/\/other.kelsey.host\/amateurphotographer\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/16\/2020\/03\/Flickr-Maciej-Dacowicz-2.jpg?resize=300,200 300w, https:\/\/other.kelsey.host\/amateurphotographer\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/16\/2020\/03\/Flickr-Maciej-Dacowicz-2.jpg?resize=600,400 600w, https:\/\/other.kelsey.host\/amateurphotographer\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/16\/2020\/03\/Flickr-Maciej-Dacowicz-2.jpg?resize=562,375 562w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 630px) 100vw, 630px\" \/>\t\t\t<p class=\"c-caption__text\">Credit: Maciej Dacowicz<\/p>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\n<h3>Early advocates<\/h3>\n<p>Award-winning street photographer Maciej Dakowicz was an early advocate of Flickr, yet his enthusiasm has since waned. I asked him why. \u2018I joined Flickr in 2005 and it was very modern and fresh, much better than any other photo-sharing platforms. Before, my main photo platforms were TrekEarth and PBase, but when Flickr arrived everyone moved there. There was a group called Hardcore Street Photography (HCSP) and it became the hub of the internet\u2019s street photography \u201crevival\u201d around 2010, that\u2019s where John Maloof asked what to do with his newly bought negatives of this unknown photographer called Vivian Maier in 2009 (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/groups\/94761711@N00\/discuss\/72157622552378986\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">www.flickr.com\/groups\/94761711@N00\/discuss\/72157622552378986\/<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>\u2018The group still exists although it\u2019s not so important any more. There were other groups, some very active with thousands of members. I remember a popular one run by Lonely Planet, I actually won a couple of guidebooks. Many editors from various media used it for scouting for photos and I made quite a few sales through the platform, with my photos landing in various magazines and on several book covers. I think the main issue with Flickr and a reason it never properly took off, is that very few well-known photographers joined it. Somehow they thought it was not cool for them to share photos there, while it is completely cool for them now to share photos on Instagram. I remember Martin Parr joined Flickr and participated in some discussions in HCSP but he never posted any photos. Another issue is the Explore page (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/explore\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">www.flickr.com\/explore<\/a>) that is supposed to showcase the best recent photos, but which is simply horrible. The algorithm for selecting photos for it is completely random and each time I open this page it makes me want to quit. Flickr should have invested some money into developing a better algorithm or employing some editors to curate the page properly.\u2019 Maciej for Vice President!<\/p>\n\t\t<div id=&quot;attachment_136021&quot;  class=\"c-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 650px\">\n\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-136021\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/03\/Flickr-hardcore-street-photography.jpg\" alt=\"Flickr hardcore street photography\" width=\"630\" height=\"420\" srcset=\"https:\/\/other.kelsey.host\/amateurphotographer\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/16\/2020\/03\/Flickr-hardcore-street-photography.jpg 630w, https:\/\/other.kelsey.host\/amateurphotographer\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/16\/2020\/03\/Flickr-hardcore-street-photography.jpg?resize=300,200 300w, https:\/\/other.kelsey.host\/amateurphotographer\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/16\/2020\/03\/Flickr-hardcore-street-photography.jpg?resize=600,400 600w, https:\/\/other.kelsey.host\/amateurphotographer\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/16\/2020\/03\/Flickr-hardcore-street-photography.jpg?resize=562,375 562w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 630px) 100vw, 630px\" \/>\t\t\t<p class=\"c-caption__text\">The Flickr group Hardcore Street Photography (HCSP)<\/p>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\n<h3>Overwhelming<\/h3>\n<p>You can see a different picture by a different photographer every second of the year on Flickr. It can be overwhelming, like living in any community. Decide what you want to get out of it before you join it, once you do join it, be proactive. Photographs to many are more personal than words. It\u2019s important to find a safe home for them where they can be cherished and shared. Where photographers are treated as a priority and empowered to tell the stories they want to tell. A utopian place for photographers by photographers. All things considered, there are worse places to visit than planet Flickr&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Or so I thought.<\/p>\n<p>On 19 December 2019, Dan MacAskill released a candid open plea, which read \u2018The world\u2019s most-beloved, money-losing business needs your help\u2019. The revealing statement admits Flickr is still far from profitable and appeals to photographers to sign up to Flickr Pro. \u2018Please, help us make Flickr thrive. Help us ensure it has a bright future,\u2019 implores MacAskill. It seems that planet Flickr may yet be sucked into the black hole of history, along with billions of images.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><em>Editor\u2019s note: <\/em>Amateur Photographer<em> also contacted Flickr for input on this piece, but it declined to comment.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Before the dominance of Instagram and Facebook, Flickr was the place to be for photographers. 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