{"id":15740,"date":"2011-08-03T09:14:00","date_gmt":"2011-08-03T08:14:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/amateurphotographer.co.uk\/uncategorized\/photographers-rights-when-is-public-land-private-15740"},"modified":"2014-11-03T16:57:03","modified_gmt":"2014-11-03T16:57:03","slug":"photographers-rights-when-is-public-land-private","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/other.kelsey.host\/amateurphotographer\/latest\/photo-news\/photographers-rights-when-is-public-land-private\/","title":{"rendered":"Photographers\u2019 rights: When is ‘public’ land private?"},"content":{"rendered":"

\"MediaCity<\/img>The MediaCityUK development at Salford Quays will soon play host to TV programmes such as BBC Breakfast<\/em><\/p>\n

Picture credit: Darren Hartley<\/p>\n

When is a public area private? When it is labelled ?public realm? it seems.<\/strong><\/p>\n

A photographer in Salford has become the latest to clash with security officials after he mistakenly believed he was in a public area when, in fact, he was on private land where photography without permission was banned. <\/p>\n

The issue is symptomatic of what some say is the increasing privatisation of the UK?s public spaces and was highlighted during a debate about photographers? rights<\/a> in London a fortnight ago.<\/p>\n

Amateur photographer Phil Jenkins became the latest victim when security staff told him he was not allowed to take pictures at MediaCityUK in Salford Quays – a 36-acre site on the banks of the Manchester Ship Canal.<\/p>\n

Soon to become home to flagship BBC television programmes, the site features a five-acre ?public realm? that includes a piazza designed to hold events for up to 6,000 people.<\/p>\n

?I explained that I was taking photos for personal use, and that was accepted.? Jenkins told Amateur Photographer<\/em>. <\/p>\n

?Five minutes later the Head of Security for MediaCityUK arrived, with an extremely sizeable security guard.?<\/p>\n

Jenkins, who said he was accompanied by a ?model? but insisted he was not a commercial photographer, added: ?He said I was on private property and that I could not take photographs.?<\/p>\n

The city?s ?public realm? spaces comprise ?streets, squares, parks, green spaces and other outdoor spaces that are open for everyone to use?, according to the Public Realm Handbook<\/em> published by Salford City Council’s planning department in 2009. <\/p>\n

Developed by The Peel Group, MediaCityUK (pictured above) promotes itself as a \u00a3650 million city on Manchester?s historic waterfront – providing a ?vibrant, sustainable community of workers, residents, students and visitors?.<\/p>\n

?I said to [the guard] that I was in the area called ?public realm? which implied it is for the public to use,? the photographer continued.<\/p>\n

?I also pointed out that there are no signs anywhere to state that photography is not allowed.?<\/p>\n

Private not public<\/strong><\/p>\n

When Jenkins was told he needed a permit he questioned whether people attending public festivals on the site are similarly restricted when using their mobile phones, for example.<\/p>\n

He said the security officer confirmed to him that such visitors would also be stopped.<\/p>\n

A few minutes later Jenkins was confronted by another guard (who arrived on a ?Segway? motor scooter) after he was spotted trying to take pictures from a nearby bridge. <\/p>\n

The photographer said he was then told to leave the area. <\/p>\n

?I then asked where the boundary for the private property was for MediaCityUK, so I would know where I could actually go. <\/p>\n

‘She checked for me and they did not know.?<\/p>\n

Jenkins added: ?She did advise that I was being followed everywhere on CCTV.? <\/p>\n

A spokeswoman for MediaCityUK confirmed to Amateur Photographer<\/em> that the public realm area is privately owned.<\/p>\n

She added: ?MediaCityUK includes an area of public realm but the development is privately owned and we have a responsibility to our occupiers to question photography taking place, should we feel it appropriate to do so.<\/p>\n

?The press team here regularly receives requests from organisations or individuals who may wish to take pictures which are not merely generic shots of the buildings or surrounding areas. <\/p>\n

?We are always happy to give advice when such requests are forthcoming.?<\/p>\n

In a recent meeting with officials at the Home Office, DS Parkes, a counter-terrorism advisor at the Metropolitan Police, conceded that privately-run areas, such as shopping centres, are a ‘grey-area’ regarding photographic rights. <\/p>\n

He told us: ‘It’s a security guard problem, not a police problem.’ <\/p>\n

Parkes said that, if photos are prohibited in such areas, warning signs should be on display.<\/p>\n

Speaking at an event hosted by the London Street Photography Festival<\/a> on 20 July, author and journalist Anna Minton voiced concern at what she sees a proliferation of ?privately managed public spaces? – blurring the line between what is, and what is not, public land.<\/p>\n

In her book, Ground Control<\/em>, published in 2009, Anna Minton asserts that ?untested urban planning has transformed not only our cities, but the very nature of public space, of citizenship and of trust?.<\/p>\n

<\/img>Press ‘like’ to join our photographer’s rights Facebook campaign<\/p>\n

Or join AP’s general Facebook page:<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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