{"id":22588,"date":"2009-10-05T13:42:00","date_gmt":"2009-10-05T12:42:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/amateurphotographer.co.uk\/uncategorized\/photographers-warn-of-confusion-over-pm-statement-22588"},"modified":"2014-11-03T16:01:22","modified_gmt":"2014-11-03T16:01:22","slug":"photographers-warn-of-confusion-over-pm-statement","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/other.kelsey.host\/amateurphotographer\/latest\/photo-news\/photographers-warn-of-confusion-over-pm-statement\/","title":{"rendered":"Photographers warn of confusion over PM statement"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Prime Minister <a href=\"http:\/\/amateurphotographer.co.uk\/news\/PM_Brown_tells_photographers_You_can_take_pics_of_police_news_289905.html\" title=\"Gordon Brown statement\">Gordon Brown&#8217;s assertion<\/a> that it is not illegal to photograph a police officer, provided you have a &#8216;reasonable excuse&#8217;, has sparked confusion among photographers.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Brown issued the statement last week, as part of his response to an e-petition launched on the Number 10 website earlier this year. <\/p>\n<p>The petition had called for Section 58A of the Terrorism Act to be withdrawn and for such &#8216;photography restrictions&#8217; to be lifted. &amp;<\/p>\n<p>In response, the PM said: &#8216;Section 58A [introduced on 16 February] makes it an offence to publish, communicate, elicit or attempt to elicit information about any such persons which is of a kind likely to be useful to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism. <\/p>\n<p>Brown added: &#8216;Contrary to some media and public misconception, Section 58A does not make it illegal to photograph a police officer, military personnel or member of the intelligence services.&#8217; <\/p>\n<p>The PM said that photographers have a statutory defence against criminal action if they can prove they had a &#8216;reasonable excuse&#8217; to take the picture.<\/p>\n<p>But John Tracy, chief executive of the Bureau of Freelance Photographers (BFP) told <em>Amateur Photographer<\/em> (AP): &#8216;No 10&#8217;s response to this e-petition once again clouds the issue. It implies that it is only legitimate to photograph a police officer if you are a press photographer or a tourist.<\/p>\n<p>&#8216;Yet the fact is, it is perfectly legal to photograph a police officer &#8211; or anyone else for that matter &#8211; in a public place. It is not just press photographers or tourists who have a &#8216;reasonable excuse&#8217; for taking such pictures. By definition, you do not have to have a &#8216;reasonable excuse&#8217; to carry out a legal activity.&#8217;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mess will &#8216;get worse&#8217;<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Keen photographer and journalist Alex Singleton, views the statement as far from clear cut.<\/p>\n<p>Writing in his <em>Daily Telegraph<\/em> <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.telegraph.co.uk\/news\/alexsingleton\/100011759\/downing-street-wont-tell-us-if-taking-a-photograph-is-legal\/\" title=\"newspaper blog\">newspaper blog<\/a>, Singleton said Brown&#8217;s comments will do nothing to reassure photographers and that &#8216;the mess will only get worse&#8217;.<\/p>\n<p>He added: &#8216;It&#8217;s ignored the vagueness in the law and told photographers that what they need is to prove that they have a legitimate &#8216;excuse&#8217;. <\/p>\n<p>&#8216;It says that an innocent tourist or other sightseer taking a photograph of a police officer is likely to have a &#8216;reasonable excuse&#8217; and that &#8216;legitimate journalistic activity&#8217; (such as covering a demonstration for a newspaper) is likely to constitute such an excuse.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8216;But actually,&#8217; Singleton added, &#8216;this just makes it more confusing. What does &#8216;likely&#8217; mean in this context? Doesn&#8217;t it mean that even &#8216;innocent tourists&#8217; could be committing an offence?&#8217;<\/p>\n<p>AP news editor Chris Cheesman said: &#8216;Gordon Brown&#8217;s response will be seen &#8216;weasel words&#8217; &#8211; merely inflaming, rather than placating, photographers by re-stating the Home Office&#8217;s response to the controversial legislation following its introduction earlier this year.<\/p>\n<p>&#8216;If the clumsily-worded Section 58A was not designed to confuse, it certainly has and is still doing so, eight months since it became law. <\/p>\n<p>&#8216;It seems that you are just as likely to be stopped taking a photograph of a police officer today as you were on 17 February, the day after it took effect. <\/p>\n<p>&#8216;The government might just as well have wheeled out its standard response to photographers&#8217; complaints which is, in summary: &#8216;It is never our intention to stop photographers.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>RELATED ARTICLES<\/p>\n<p><a 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