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\n\t\t\t\"Steinfjord,\t\t\t

Steinfjord, Norway, by Andy Farrer
Canon EOS 5Ds, 16-35mm, 2.5secs at f\/11, ISO 100<\/p>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\n

The life of a landscape photographer can be a very solitary one. Often it\u2019s a case of chasing the light in remote locations early in the morning or patiently waiting for the setting sun to fall behind a landmark. But one UK-based group \u2013 called the Landscape Collective UK (LCUK) \u2013 was formed a few years ago to give landscape photography fanatics opportunities to meet and discuss their images.<\/p>\n

Currently comprising 14 members, the group was initiated by photographer and author Tony Worobiec, who explains: \u2018The reason why we got together to form this group is because many of us photographers kind of work in isolation. You\u2019re producing work and you\u2019re thinking, \u201cWho\u2019s going to get to see this work?\u201d I produce a number of books, but this is not quite the same because you\u2019re not getting that human contact. The idea was to try to group together people with similar enthusiasms and ability.\u2019<\/p>\n

The group meets approximately every two months at a venue in the coastal town of Lyme Regis, situated in the picturesque English county of Dorset.<\/p>\n

\u2018One of the reasons why we decided to meet here is because for those people travelling long distances \u2013 some people travel from as far as Buckinghamshire and London to get here for a Sunday morning \u2013 it\u2019s a fabulous location to photograph afterwards,\u2019 says Tony. \u2018In other words the day is a complete one, with it sometimes involving taking photographs with your fellow [collective] colleagues as well.\u2019<\/p>\n\t\t

\n\t\t\t\"Etive\t\t\t

Etive Mor by Peter Spencer
Canon EOS 5D Mark III, 15mm, 52secs at f\/3.2, ISO 400<\/p>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\n

Choosing members<\/h2>\n

The members vary from full-time professionals, such as Dorset-based landscape photographer Andy Farrer, to very keen amateurs who hold down regular daytime jobs \u2013 and the membership includes a bricklayer, graphic designer and civil servant.<\/p>\n

\u2018I knew Susan Brown, Paul Mitchell and obviously my wife, Eva\u2026 they are the only ones I actually knew,\u2019 says Tony. \u2018Paul Mitchell knew two other people I\u2019d never met before through Flickr, or some other photographic social media, so we brought those people in and it kind of \u201cnetworked\u201d from there. Most of us were strangers to each other when we actually got together. Incidentally, Andy Farrer only lives about 10 miles away, but I\u2019d never really met him before. Somebody suggested we try Andy; I actually had taught him art \u2013 he\u2019s now in his 40s \u2013 but there he was, working in his little bubble 10 miles away and I was working here in my bubble.\u2019
\nAndy \u2013 winner of the UK Landscape Photographer of the Year in 2015 \u2013 reveals: \u2018I thought it was a really good idea just to meet with peers. Social media and photo-sharing sites are really just everybody slapping you on the back and telling you how brilliant everything is \u2013 it\u2019s all very nice but it doesn\u2019t really help you progress. What we wanted was somewhere we could actually be brutally honest and discuss ideas in a non-competitive, formal setting.\u2019<\/p>\n

He adds: \u2018We needed a certain number of people to get enough momentum and to keep costs down for renting the room and things like that, but obviously not too many because we all take prints along to show each other and have a chat. We\u2019ve all got quite different approaches. Susan, Eva and Tony are very accomplished with lots of books and exhibitions. Susan\u2019s quite high up with the Royal Photographic Society (RPS); she\u2019s on the judging panels. We\u2019ve all got quite different approaches.\u2019<\/p>\n\t\t

\n\t\t\t\"Corfe\t\t\t

Corfe Castle Summer Mist by Andy Farrer
Canon EOS 5D Mark II, 21mm, 1\/40sec at f\/11, ISO 100<\/p>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\n

Reviewing recent work<\/h2>\n

The Landscape Collective\u2019s regular meetings see two tables set up for members to lay out their most recent landscape work for viewing and input from the others in the group. \u2018Usually we bring about six or seven images,\u2019 Tony says, \u2018and what we don\u2019t do is sit around a screen and somebody formally puts their work up. We quite deliberately have two long tables and somebody will put a selection of their work in, and another photographer on the other side of the room will do the same. We kind of visit the two tables and each of us informally will just talk to the person. In this way, you tend to get a conversation started, such as, \u201cWhen did you take this?\u201d and, \u201cWhat were you thinking?\u201d<\/p>\n

\u2018I have heard people making critical comments, but in a very gentle, supportive manner. Nobody ever feels demolished as a consequence, and I think everybody goes away feeling it was a great day. It\u2019s become a very honest forum for people to bring work along on a fairly regular basis. I think every member of the Landscape Collective is sufficiently confident that they know that the comments they get from their peers will be honest and constructive.\u2019<\/p>\n

As for the beneficial aspects of meeting up, Andy says: \u2018Normally everybody looks at everything. Some you find really exciting and ask lots of questions about, and others perhaps less so. But it\u2019s great to see what people have been doing in those couple of months. It makes you a bit more inclined to get up and get out and get some new images. Certainly if you\u2019re having a \u201cflat spot\u201d you go away feeling quite enthusiastic and it helps to \u201cbuzz\u201d things along a bit I think.\u2019<\/p>\n\t\t

\n\t\t\t\"Dewdrops\t\t\t

Dewdrops by Paul Mitchell
Nikon D7000, 1\/100sec at ISO 100<\/p>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\n

Advice and equipment<\/h2>\n

Most of the group now shoot digitally and they talk about camera gear from time to time. Andy reveals: \u2018Some of us are Canon users, some of us use Nikon. I\u2019m quite keen on gear, but I\u2019m not a \u201cgear junkie\u201d; it is useful to ask questions about gear. I\u2019ve got the new version of the Canon 100-400mm lens and it is significantly better, so you can say, \u201cYou know what, guys? It\u2019s worth the money.\u201d It\u2019s nice to be able to have that interaction, rather than just reading a review, and ask each other and get unbiased advice. For things like framing, and getting picture mounts cut, it\u2019s just nice to get contacts from other people that might save us some money and make us a bit more competitive.<\/p>\n

It\u2019s interesting to see the way we present our prints because unless you go to galleries and lots of exhibitions, you don\u2019t necessarily see other people\u2019s end results.\u2019<\/p>\n

Tony adds: \u2018One guy, Roger Langden, still shoots on medium or even large-format film. Another one of our members, Paul Mitchell, does a lot of work on pinhole cameras but, of course, the images are then digitally scanned and he produces digital images as a consequence. But he continues to use film, and having this mix in the group helps.
\nI started to write books about 20 years ago and, to be honest, I was very loath to give up film. Eventually I thought, \u201cDigital has something to offer. We ought to take this seriously?\u201d\u2019<\/p>\n\t\t

\n\t\t\t\"Our\t\t\t

Our Tree on a Winter Morning by Vanda Ralevska
Nikon D800, 24-70mm, 1\/40sec at f\/22, ISO 100, tripod<\/p>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\n

The main benefits<\/h2>\n

As for the major benefits of being a member of the group, Andy notes: \u2018Other people go to different places that I\u2019ve never been to, so you can get ideas for different locations. I find it very interesting seeing people\u2019s approaches to their photography. I think if you just glean one little thing from one person at a meeting that\u2019s progress. Something that puts an idea in your mind or makes you look at something in a slightly different way\u2026 all these things are beneficial.\u2019<\/p>\n

He adds: \u2018I\u2019ve only ever really printed images when people have ordered things, but now I do print things, pop them in a box and take them along to meetings, which is good because once you see things printed you adjust your processes because you\u2019re thinking more of the output. I think probably the biggest thing I\u2019ve got from the last couple of years is that I\u2019m thinking about the flat print at the point of capture now, whereas previously I was probably thinking along the lines of composition and not really thinking quite as creatively perhaps.\u2019<\/p>\n

Tony admits: \u2018It\u2019s really quite difficult to disassociate yourself from your own work \u2013 you look at it and think, \u201cHow can I be objective?\u201d So it\u2019s just brilliant to bring along something that you think you\u2019re enthusiastic, or even wary, about and actually show it to others and receive intelligent feedback. It\u2019s also useful because a lot of these people have knowledge of good locations or even new developments in camera design, which we talk about informally and I sometimes think, \u201cCrikey! I\u2019d better reset my camera when I get home\u201d. It\u2019s things like this that actually prove beneficial.\u2019<\/p>\n\t\t

\n\t\t\t\"Lane\t\t\t

Lane Swimming by Sue Brown
Canon EOS 5D, 24-105mm, 80secs at f\/20, ISO 100<\/p>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\n

How to set up a group<\/h2>\n

So what advice would Andy and Tony give to others thinking of setting up a similar photography group? Andy reveals: \u2018It was quite an organic thing really and I think anyone can do it with social media; it\u2019s just working it into an offline group rather than an online group. It\u2019s easy enough to get a group of people together, meet up in a central place and find a room. It\u2019s quite a straightforward thing to do, but I guess you need one organised person who can front it.\u2019<\/p>\n

Tony adds: \u2018I would say it all depends on whether you get satisfaction from a camera-club situation, which, personally, I find rather static. I think the key here is who you pick. It\u2019s got to be people who are non-competitive; people who are probably of the same standard and it\u2019s also important to bring along younger photographers. I think our demographic is quite a good one \u2013 we\u2019ve got some people who are in their 30s and 40s. Also, it\u2019s got to be people who are good listeners. I think the personality as well as their ability to take photographs is important. We\u2019ve handpicked people quite carefully and I think I can say we are almost friends really, even though we didn\u2019t know each other before.\u2019<\/p>\n\t\t

\n\t\t\t\"\t\t\t

School at Burnham by Tony Worobiec
Canon EOS 5D Mark III, 24-105mm, 1\/50sec at f\/11, ISO 800<\/p>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\n

Interview with group member Paul Mitchell<\/h2>\n\"Paul\n

What are the main benefits of being in the group?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u2018Landscape photography can be a singularly lonely pastime. Many times I have travelled to a location and returned without seeing a soul. Occasionally, one might bump into a fellow photographer, but more often than not there is a brief nod of the head before going our separate ways again. It is therefore refreshing to belong to a group of like-minded individuals that shares a passion for landscape photography and, where we can, be able to show and discuss our work. I do belong to other groups, but LCUK has a wonderful mix of people and styles.\u2019<\/p>\n

Have your landscape skills improved as a result of being a member of the group?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u2018I would like to say that my landscape skills improve on an annual basis, but having belonged to LCUK for the past three years it has certainly accelerated that process. It\u2019s the willingness of the group to share locations, processing and printing techniques that I have gained the most from.\u2019<\/p>\n

What\u2019s the best piece of advice you\u2019ve been given within the group?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u2018I can\u2019t recall a single piece of advice that has made a difference, as it has always been a collective process \u2013 hence the name!\u2019<\/p>\n

Interview with group member Nicki Gwynn-Jones<\/h2>\n\"Nicki\n

What are the benefits of being in the group?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u2018For me, the benefit of being in a group such as LCUK is that I get to spend time with highly talented, creative photographers\u00a0who cover a variety of styles and perspectives.\u00a0Because this is such a supportive environment, I\u00a0feel free to show my most creative work, knowing that I will always get an honest and truthful assessment, but done with sensitivity and a non-judgemental spirit.\u2019<\/p>\n

Have your landscape skills improved as a result of being a member of the group?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u2018I do\u00a0think that my work has\u00a0developed over the time that I have been a member.\u00a0I have to strive to stay at the top of my game in order to keep up with the incredibly high standards within the group,\u00a0and\u00a0I feel that\u00a0I have become a\u00a0more discerning photographer.\u00a0I also enjoy seeing how other people present their work as this always brings\u00a0fresh ideas.\u2019<\/p>\n

What\u2019s the best piece of advice you\u2019ve been given within the group?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\u2018The encouragement and support that I receive have given me the confidence\u00a0to\u00a0stay true to myself and to my view of the world.\u2019<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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